Question:
the 2000's the worst decade in rock/pop history ???
Alberto V
2007-06-21 01:51:36 UTC
60's: beatles, stones, kinks, the who, hendrix .. psychedelia
70's : floyd,pistols, clash, bowie,genesis .. punk , prog rock, glam
80's : live aid, queen, depeche mode, cure, u2, new wave, metal, goth etc
90's : nirvana, oasis, radiohead, blur, pulp ..grunge,britpop, ...
are the 2000's the worst ? no big names so far .. why? is rock in decadence ? no more talent ? can in the next 3 years emerge a new band ? new music style ? is music in crisis ??
what you think ?
37 answers:
anonymous
2007-06-21 01:59:51 UTC
It is all relative



To me, the 80's were as lame as it got for music.



MTV ruined the whole decade
anonymous
2007-06-21 13:44:16 UTC
For me personally, rock hasn't been the same since the 80's. The 60's to the 80's were huge when it came to big rock titles. The 90's the only band i personally like was nirvana. And in the period of time (60's-80's) The names were huge. I mean look at the Beatles. There is no possible band that could be as big as the Beatles. They are the only band in history to have the top 5 spots took up with their songs at the same time. No band has ever done anything even close to that. The stones have been around for 4 generations. David Bowie, look at Ziggy Stardust, he got so much publicity over that. It was the rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust. To me there could be no bands the same as the 60's-80's. Nothing could ever be as good and even if there was bands that were good it could never be the same. They are the classics. You can't change the classics and new age music (what music is now) can't be classics. To Me Rock and Roll died in 1990.
eriverpipe
2007-06-21 02:25:30 UTC
Well, the 80s were pretty awful.... I'll grant you the Cure and U2, although both bands actually formed in the 70s and had pretty much done their best work by 1982, were both dreadful during the 1990s before both made a revival with their best stuff for ages in the 2000s. Queen were also a 70s band who were largely irrelevent in the 1980s. Metal??? Again, a 70s movement which kind of mergered with glam into an unpleasant AOR-based 'poodle rock' mess during the 1980s. And please.... goth as a positive musical influence - don;t make me laugh????

So, what do we have in the 2000s then? The rise of Americana bringing us artists like Jeff Buckley, Bright Eyes and Ryan Adams... The Strokes. The White Stripes. Arcade Fire. Kings Of Leon. The Libertines. The new wave of British bands such as Arctic Monkeys, Editors, Maximo Park, The Cribs, Kaiser Chiefs etc. But mostly the 2000s has been about the re-emergence of quality bands/artists who struggled through the 80s and 90s now producing major works of influence. Muse. Green Day. The Flaming Lips. Mercury Rev. Beck. Nick Cave. Red Hot Chili Peppers. All have produced better stuff in the 2000s than what you deem worth having from previous decades. There have been some notable re-emergences in the last few years as well, all welcome and all producing work up there with their original product - Jarvis Cocker, The Pixies,Jesus and Mary Chain.

There hasn't been a new 'music style' as such since rap, and basically the 'style' of rock and roll has been going round in circles for about 30 years ... the main thing now is that there is so much MORE rock and pop music about than ever before in so many different underground genres that even someone like me who lives and breathes music has difficulty to keep up with it all. No, the 2000s are a far healtheir decade than most - the 60s were pretty influential, the 70s were pure dross until 1976, when punk happened (and even then this had to share centre stage with cr@ppy disco nonsense), the 80s were, as discussed, bereft of any interest whatsoever, the 90s were pretty good for the reasons you mention, but were also swamped with treacly r and b/ boy band stuff, so in my view we are as healthy now as we have ever been music-wise....
anonymous
2007-06-27 10:27:59 UTC
Yes, the 2000's have been the worst yet for music. There have been a few good bands and a few good songs but so far cannot compare to any of the decades before. Look at todays culture of teenagers for example. They are the offspring of the Nirvana grunge revolution. They dress, look and act like Curt Cobain. Todays american rock bands as a whole, dress the same, look the same and sound the same. Very...very few bands have their own sound. Most of todays american rock bands lead singers sound the same too. There are a few exceptions, but they sound like they are whining when they sing. Oh, I'm not saying they aren't talented, but there is nothing that sets bands apart from one another like the other decades before. If you are asking this question because it is what you think, then I totally agree with you. Kids will come in here and disagree with me, but that is because they don't know any better. They have not lived through music of other decades except maybe the Nirvana 90's...lol. That is it in a nut shell.
anonymous
2007-06-21 12:39:31 UTC
First of all, the only bands you've picked are famous ones. Is that how you judge a band's quality - by record sales? Here would be mine:



60s: 13th Floor Elevators, Bob Dylan, Love, The Byrds, Velvet Underground, Os Mutantes, Nirvana, Hendrix, the Doors, the Incredible String Band, Rolling Stones, Joan Baez, Pearls Before Swine, Pink Floyd



70s: The Stooges/Iggy Pop, Tangerine Dream, Neu, Warren Zevon, Bowie, Grateful Dead, The Who, Francoise Hardy, Marianne Faithfull, Ananda Shankar, Pavlov's Dog, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Frank Zappa, Deuter, Brian Eno



80s: Husker Du, Fugazi, Stone Roses, Skinny Puppy, Einstürzende Neubauten, Queensryche, the Verlaines, The Chills, Bathory, Metallica, Sonic Youth, Nomeansno, Misfits, Scritti Politti, the Associates, Boogie Down Productions, R.E.M, Black Flag, Sodom, Minutemen, Mercyful Fate, Helloween, They Might Be Giants, Pixies, KLF



90s: Primal Scream, Alice in Chains, Dream Theatre, Dissection, NIN, Faith No More, Tool, MF Doom, Wu-Tang Clan (+ solo artists), Kool Keith, Nas, Dr Dre, Tori Amos, Pulp, Nirvana, Green Day, PJ Harvey, The Orb, Suede, Boo Radleys, Burzum, Kyuss, Cat Power, RATM, Oasis, Soundgarden



00s: Porcupine Tree, The High Wire, Eminem, Nightmare of You, J Dilla, Deltron 3030, The Killers, Dalek, Arcade Fire, Agalloch, Joanna Newsom, Rise Against, Regina Spektor, Lily Allen, Sufjan Stevens, Sigur Rós



Stop waiting for a style or scene, discover new bands and develop an individual taste. The 2000s is a little weaker in comparison but there's no musical crisis. We live in this society that reveres the past and bemoans the present and this attitude extends to music.



Besides, loads of bands that we idolise now were virtually ignored in their era, so I'm guessing the same will happen with this decade.

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Fair point, but your list does read like a typical NME sort of Beatles/Floyd/U2/Oasis love-in.
anonymous
2007-06-21 10:09:04 UTC
By far! Everything has gone way too comercial! All metal has gone punk with no talent. Too many fairy boy bands and tiny bopper crap. Hip hop is annoying and is not music. Mariah Carrey hurts my ears when she sings. American Idol is gay.

The commecialism started to go out of control way back but thanks to progressive rock music was saved. The 80s and MTV are too blame for most of the commercialism and record companies having too much control over the artists.

even the Progressive bands went downhill. Yes was a great 70s band if not one of the best. It was ruined by Owner of the Lonlely Farts. Genesis was better in the 70s than the 80s. RUSH was the exception still making great music in the 80s.

But it got worse in the 90s and it is all bad now. Only older artists have made good music now. Scorpions, David Gilmour of Pink Floyd, Enya, U2, are a few of the ones who are still making great music at all. I think On An Island by David Gilmour is the greatest album of the decade! It is the best album he has done since Animals with Pink Floyd.
Madfan
2007-06-21 03:17:48 UTC
The 2000's (or the noughties as some sections of the media have dubbed it!) aren't over yet! I think you are referring to the fact that every decade so far has produced a new style of music that changes it forever: 50's - Rock & Roll, 60's - Psychedelic, 70's - Punk/Postpunk, 80's - Indie, Synthpop, Acid House, Hip-Hop/Rap, 90's - Grunge, Lo-fi, and the rise of R'n'B, 2000's - errrrr... no musical revolution to speak of, just loads of widely varied genres and scenes, and the rise of the internet and mp3's. I think you'll find all decades have bad years: certainly after postpunk in the late 70's and all the inventive New Pop in the early 80's, the years 86 -88 were pretty bad unless you were in your early teens and listening to S/A/W produced pop (Kylie, Rick Astley etc), which i was! In 86, Madness split, 87, The Smiths split.... and most of the big bands who had produced some really great music earlier in the decade became stadium rock (Simple Minds, U2, The Cure) and started producing overblown rubbish. There was a lot of great indie music around but that wasn't getting airplay, unless you listened to John Peel (R.I.P). But getting back to the original question (!), there is more great music around now, and it's more widely available than ever before, you just have to broaden your tastes a bit!
Big Paesano
2007-06-28 06:42:27 UTC
The 2000s have definitely been very disappointing. There have been some good ones here and there but nothing that will have a spot reserved for them in the history of rock. Emo, and screamo and pop-punk don't count at all. I'm not even sure that if Jesus comes back and starts a band in the next 3 years that it would save this decade.
Nightwolf
2007-06-23 11:24:38 UTC
I agree with one of the previous contributors who said that the noughties are not over yet. Remember, bands grow and develop with time. Look how long it took Depeche Mode to get to Violator, U2 to get to The Joshua Tree and REM to make Automatic For The People. Many of the newer bands show great potential, some of which have already been mentioned: The Killers, MCR, Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand and quite significantly, Coldplay.
Kirk_84
2007-06-26 13:18:27 UTC
I am a real 80's Chick.... love it!

But at the same time, I don't agree that we have no big names this decade....

The Fratellis, Razorlight, Artic Monkeys, Kaiser Cheifs, just to name a few.

I think it all depends on your personal music taste, if you like Pop Music and boybands, then I suppose you could include Westlife, they have had more consecutive number 1's than anyone else ever.

Good question thought matey, nice to see a proper question on here, rather than the rubbish people usually ask!

xxxx
Tony M
2007-06-21 06:53:29 UTC
Every decade has its winners and losers. Although the 80's pretty much sucked in terms of music and fashion despite there being a few bright spots. But now with the internet we all have unprecedented access to music from anyone, wherever they are and what they're playing. The power of the record company executive surely must now be consigned to the dustbin of history. Yes, it means there'll be much more crap to go through but those gems will be out there somewhere. Happy hunting!!
anonymous
2007-06-27 14:22:27 UTC
man do i ever agree with you. at least to the extent that everything that's popular sucks. it's all image relative and totally exclusive of talent. i feel like there have been a lot of great bands that have come out in this decade, however none of them get talked about save for in the pages of paste or filter. i personally believe that after this wave of crap is over, there will be a revival of good music. It's just that now, all music is this sick and twisted mish mash of eye liner, polyester, and hair product. one day, good music will prevail and make the world a better place. I say give it another year or so.
anonymous
2007-06-21 02:04:33 UTC
I think there is still great music out there but less great acts have emerged in the last few years.

The biggest single reason is Downloads/ MP3.



Kids today do not have to go out and buy albums and singles like we did in the past. They like one track and download it rather than buy an album by one artist.



Supply and demand. Because of the internet and 24 hour music television more and more artists are putting music out there for people to listen to. There is more music than ever. Quantity but not that much quality .



Coldplay, Dido, Robbie Williams have been massive since 2000 so artists can still make it big.



Love him or loathe him Robbie Williams has 5 of the top 50 selling albums of all time in the UK..

Also 6 of the Top 20 is new material released since 2000.
anonymous
2007-06-22 09:33:53 UTC
I agree, there are a lot of good rock bands, but the whole genre is just getting recycled, for example, we have a lot of thrash metal, and indie rock and they have both already been done, so in that respect it isnt going very well. the only new genre is emo pop (fall out boy eg) and the less said about that the better. but there is still 3 years left so maybe the best bands are still to come./...
anonymous
2007-06-21 02:56:37 UTC
I think we have had some good artists/bands this decade so far.

Robbie Williams, Coldplay, Mika (maybe?)

Plently others such as the brit-pop bands such as Kaiser Chiefs/Kasabian.

American bands such as My Chemical Romance/Marilyn Manson(from 90s too) .

As for music genres we've had the whole move to "emo rock" maybe moving towards the "rock and dance" with likes of Mindless Self Indulgence/Enter Shikari/Haudouken! ?
Keira
2007-06-21 02:10:41 UTC
The Artic Monkeys, The Fratellis, Kaiser Chiefs, Razorlight, Queens of a Stone Age, Kasabian, Muse. Hmmm.
anonymous
2007-06-28 23:30:53 UTC
most 2000's bands suck. there are so many people with no music talent at all, back then there was original music, now there is so many crappy punk + goth rock bands that all sound the same. i think this is the worst it can get so it will either stay the same or get better. (most 2000 music i heard sucked but not all of them i just hate punk rock)
guineasomelove
2007-06-25 06:20:40 UTC
Okay, the people who thought that the 80's was a bad decade musically must be smoking crack. I mean, the 80's was an awesome decade for music.



I don't know what's up with music this decade but the majority of it sucks.
anonymous
2007-06-26 14:13:43 UTC
I think that in the late 90s, rock music was at its lowest with bands like Limp Biscut (I hope I spelled that right). Also, it was around the time when that big pop music explosion occurred (i.e. Brittney Spears, NSYNC, etc).



I think that now, rock music has gotten farther and better than in the mid to late 90s.
Lacey S
2007-06-26 11:10:51 UTC
well thats because rap took over the 2000s and since they all killed each other there really wasnt much to keep at the polls......i dont know about you guys but i refuse to remember idiots who kill others ....drug themselves up ....cuss through an entire "song" and dont use proper language ( bad spelling is ok :)) thus they did not make history...not all but most then came the wierdos like justin timberlake and his hos ( pardon)and people with absolutely no talent at all, they sing a couple of songs then hit the nightclubs before you know it someones drunk and driving and goes to jail or shaves their heads i mean really people what did you think? you think fame comes without a price??? that would be too easy :) all my credit go to those who hung in there and always delivered like aerosmith, rolling stones, alice cooper, eagles and so on.....
anonymous
2007-06-28 20:06:27 UTC
Don't worry! In 20 years our kids will be looking at Fall Out Boy, Green Day, NickelBack, and White Stripes, and will say; "I wish I'd lived in 2000, the best rock decade of them all!"
eyesinthedrk
2007-06-21 06:27:51 UTC
i agree with 2000s bring junk, and i blame the big record corperations for it, all the new bands are runnign the same formula, now days they are signing immage over tallent - a new face plastered over the same formula, have you noticed none of the rock stars look like rock stars? how many bands sound like nickle back?



thats said i being a death metal fan for 15 years think that this particular style is better than ever, bands coming with verry creative styles sure there is junk but the best is better than ever



and in response to madfan if its good its good but if i have to broaden my tastes to like it its junk
anonymous
2007-06-26 10:34:04 UTC
In the 2000s Nickelback emerged. They are one of the hottest bands in this decade. I love them. The style issue is that the darkest metal has come through. Nothern European metal(HIM) has grown in populatry as well. I personally don't like it, but it is a true statement. I think rock isn't dead. New artists are coming. DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Samuel W.
2007-06-22 12:26:32 UTC
I don't think that's true at all...although I do think you have to look harder these days to discover fantastic music...but then again I think it's all about age. For example I understand why the Beatles and Bob Dylan meant so much to their generation and I adore them both, but personally I would rather listen to the Flaming Lips or Bright Eyes because I relate to them more.
jcl32791
2007-06-21 06:09:25 UTC
I believe there will be some big names to rise from the 2000's. They're probably not famous yet because of the fact that their careers are just starting.
?
2007-06-21 13:54:45 UTC
thank you!!!

in 20 years,no one will know who eminem and nelly furtado are, but people still love zeppelin and the beatles and the stones.

as a 14 y/o female I agree with you and say that the world has to get more teens interested in good music
Jason R
2007-06-25 14:44:38 UTC
i don't think it's gone away. the proliferation of online music sources has kind of made true radio obsolete. people are finding the bands they like on their own. and if you look hard enough there are definitely bands and artists really doing some phenomenal stuff.
anonymous
2007-06-28 06:07:12 UTC
you,re just stuck in the past, moron.. there's loads of good stuff about. all you need to do is stop listening to all your old stuff and open your mind (and ears) to some of the bands that are out there now, i'm no teenybopper either, I turn 40 in a couple of months and live 4 music....WAKE UP
andy muso
2007-06-21 04:34:29 UTC
Afraid so until the 2010s!
anonymous
2007-06-21 03:37:02 UTC
You obviously don't know music as amongst all thos great bands you haven't mentioned the greatest... Led Zeppelin



But of course theres still great music, the arctic monkeys have the fastest selling debut album in the history of the British charts. Then theres Red Hot Chilli Peppers, with one of the greatest rock bassists of all time "Flea".



What about Arcade Fire, Kaiser Chiefs, Klaxons, i could go on.
TRboi
2007-06-21 04:02:31 UTC
90's blew because of nirvana's influence, thank god for bands like nofx... kept it real. you can thank kurt nobrain for emo, and madfan i have to disagree about 86 to 88, I mean Appetite for destruction alone redeemed those years, plus depeche mode did music for the masses in 86... not to mention others
Aghzzi
2007-06-21 05:10:06 UTC
the libertines gave rock a kick up **** at the the beginning of the 2000's.
anonymous
2007-06-21 13:23:04 UTC
I think that you are a very bored man.
gldngraham
2007-06-21 02:00:02 UTC
in 2011 we will look back and think 2000's were great...
Ben G
2007-06-21 08:42:22 UTC
kasabian, arctic monkeys, coldplay! they will seem more nostalgic at time passes.......
Lucifer
2007-06-21 15:28:40 UTC
there's lostprophets and mcr.
awecrap
2007-06-21 02:57:44 UTC
so far they have been pretty good for metal- I HATE HAIRSPRAY AND FLANNEL!!!!


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